Since I hold a fair amount of USD in my retirement portfolio and most of my expenses are in CAD, I do have to convert between the two worlds from time to time. Most of the time I’m converting USD to CAD, but because of higher US interest rates, I’ve recently converted some CAD into USD to take advantage of that fact and earn a little more money on my cash positions¹. My normal way of dealing with this conversion is using Norbert’s Gambit, which I’ve talked about here and here.

Anyway, I’ve decided to keep track on what these movements are costing me using my current broker of choice, Questrade. The answer is not quite as straightforward as you might think.

Fixed Cost

With Questrade, a journaling² fee is charged every time you do the Gambit. This costs $9.95 plus HST for a total of $11.24, always charged in Canadian dollars. If you choose to subscribe to Questrade Plus, then your monthly fee covers these costs. I’ve done the Gambit twice this year, with one more planned in the 4th quarter. So for me, the cost of journaling is a pay-as-you-go cost. This cost is the same whether you are journaling one share or 10,000 shares, so larger transactions are better here.

Variable Cost: Changes in USD/CAD rate

Performing the Gambit using Questrade takes several business days. The foreign exchange rate moves all the time, so by the time you complete the conversion, the rate has almost certainly changed from when you started the process. Sometimes this works in your favour, sometimes not. Most of the reading I’ve done suggests you ignore this variability, since over time it should even out. For kicks, I’m tracking it.

Variable Cost: Buying and Selling DLR/DLR.u

Any trade you do has an inherent cost, even if you pay $0 commissions³, as I do. That cost is buried in the bid/ask spread. You may have noticed this at work immediately after completing a trade — it almost always seems that the market value of what you just bought is a little lower than what you just paid⁴. This variable cost is buried, but can be estimated by looking at the average bid/ask spread of DLR, which is featured on its fact sheet. It’s currently stated to be 0.07% when buying/selling DLR and 0.1% when buying/selling DLR.U⁵ . So, on average, you will sustain a total 0.17% cost when doing the Gambit. But I must reiterate — this cost is buried in the actual price per share you get when buying/selling DLR. Now, I actually paid very close attention to the bid/ask pricing last time I did the Gambit and I paid about half that rate but that’s all down to things like the volume of trading on the day, how many shares you’re moving and a whole bunch of other things that I don’t fully comprehend.

Anyway, here’s my tracking table that I’ll update as I do more of these trades:

Some definitions are in order:

• DLR Buy: date upon which DLR (or DLR.u) was purchased.
• DLR Sell: date upon which DLR (or DLR.u) was sold. There’s a lag because that’s how long Questrade takes to complete the journaling request. Seems like it’s 3 business days.
• USD: The USD value of DLR bought or sold as reported by the trade confirmation⁶
• CAD: The CAD value of DLR bought or sold as reported by the trade confirmation⁷
• Effective rate: divide the previous two columns to come up with a USD in CAD rate⁸
• Spot Rate on BUY/SELL date: daily average exchange rate⁹ as reported by the Bank of Canada
• Target currency: what we end up with, USD or CAD. It’s the opposite of what we start with
• Ideal in target currency: This is a calculation that takes the starting currency and applies the spot Rate on the DLR buy day to come up with the target amount. The ideal would be what you would have gotten if you had access to a no-cost conversion on the day you decided you wanted it.
• Net Cost subtracts either the USD or CAD column from the ideal amount. If it’s negative, it means the foreign exchange rate moved in our favour between the buy and sell dates. Net Cost is given in the target currency.
• Journal fee is charged by Questrade
• Total cost adds the journal fee and the net Cost and converts everything to CAD using the spot Rate on the buy day. If it’s negative, we actually made money doing the conversion.
• % cost takes total cost and divides by the CAD column

If you want a comparative cost, a typical broker charges 1.5% of the amount changing hands. Looks like I’m doing far better than that so far!

1. And by “cash” I mean either ICSH or ZMMK, which are ultra-short-term bond funds denominated in USD and CAD, respectively. They are both featured as ETF All-Stars. ↩︎
2. “Journaling” is the technical term for moving an interlisted stock/ETF from the CAD side to the USD side of your account or vice versa. ↩︎
3. An attractive feature of Questrade, among others ↩︎
4. This effect is often masked by the volatility in the asset you’re buying, but when you buy very stable priced assets like ZMMK or ICSH or CASH it becomes quite noticeable. ↩︎
5. And 0.07% happens to be one cent divided by the current DLR Canadian price of $14.12. And 0.1% happens to be one cent divided by the current DLR.u price of $10.24 USD. ↩︎
6. And thus includes the bid/ask spread ↩︎
7. And thus includes the bid/ask spread ↩︎
8. And 1/effective rate gives you CAD in USD ↩︎
9. And this is an approximation since the rate changes throughout the day ↩︎