Managing decumulation as one gets older

My approach to investing for the last 20 years or so has been almost exclusively1 DIY. The other popular approach to investing is to have a fee-based advisor who typically charges anywhere from 1% to 2% of your overall holdings. For that princely sum, you probably get an in-person meeting or two annually, all the trades deemed necessary, and some nicely formatted full-colour report once a year. Value for money for a fee-based advisor is too low for me to consider it. Nobody will ever care as much about my own investments as I do.

I am trying to be realistic about the future, however. My current retirement payment scheme is rather labour-intensive, for instance:

  • I have to manually sell RRIF funds every month to make my RRIF-minimum payments. This normally means selling XGRO which makes up the bulk of my RRIF accounts.
  • I have to manually move money around between brokerage accounts to tweak VPW’s cash cushion; excess funds here get invested in ZMMK or ICSH so they generate a return
  • Since RRIF-minimum payments are not currently sufficient to fund my lifestyle, I augment this with sales of non-registered funds…and I have to pick which fund to sell considering capital gains impact as well as asset-allocation2
    • …and I have to manually move the cash resulting from the sale to my bank account
  • I continue to maintain a heavy allocation to USD-denominated funds, and since most of my spending is in Canadian dollars, I have to systematically3 convert my USD holdings to CAD, typically using Norbert’s Gambit
  • And I continue to contribute to a TFSA monthly, so appropriate4 purchases have to made there, too

So I will start looking at alternative (and more costly) arrangements. Right now, I’m thinking robo-advisors5.  Off the top of my head, there are three I want to take a look at:

  • Nest Wealth: They are immediately interesting to me because of their flat fee structure. Most other advisors charge you a percentage based on the size of your portfolio, which strikes me as unfair. Is a 50k portfolio really ten times easier to manage than a 500k portfolio? If you looked at the fees most providers charge, you’d believe it to be the case.
  • Wealthsimple: I do self-directed business with Wealthsimple today, and have actually talked to one of their advisors about this service. I need to understand their service better.
  • Questrade: I do self-directed business with Questrade today. I’ve not investigated their robo-advisor service much.

Is there a robo that you use that I should know about? Let me know at comments@moneyengineer.ca!

  1. Before I retired this year, I did pay for an advice-only advisor to make sure my retirement savings would support my retirement needs. I do recommend doing that, as it’s helpful to have somebody else look at your numbers if only for peace of mind. Beyond that, I don’t pay any management fees except what’s embedded in the ETFs I use, most of which are on my ETF All-Stars list. ↩︎
  2. Meaning, for example: should I sell HXT (a fund fully invested in Canadian equities) or HXS (a fund fully invested in US equities)? Should I sell from MY non-registered account or that of my spouse? ↩︎
  3. Currently quarterly, at a rate consistent with the percentages dictated by RRIF minimum. For example, at age 57, RRIF minimum is 3.03% of RRIF value. So in January, I look at how many USD I have in my RRIF, multiply that by 3.03%, and divide by 4. That determines how much USD I have to convert every quarter. . ↩︎
  4. Relying on my multi-asset tracker spreadsheet ↩︎
  5. This term seems to be falling out of fashion in favour of “managed” portfolios. As long as the fees are low, they will be robo-advisors to me… ↩︎


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2 thoughts on “Managing decumulation as one gets older

    • Makes perfect sense. I may do the same if I get tired of making manual trades. ZGRO.T pays dividends monthly so it does mesh nicely with my monthly withdrawals from my RRIF…at present, I have to augment my RRIF withdrawals with non registered asset sales so there’s still complexity to manage in my case. Once the non-registered is depleted, I could go all-in on ZGRO.T, I suppose.

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