Category: Estate Planning

Death, Taxes and Estates: Part 2

RobH5 Comments

I am not a lawyer, accountant or tax expert. Your situation may be a lot different than mine. Seek professional guidance if needed.

Part 1 of this blog is found here.

I’m still wrapping up the estate of my late mother, who died a little over a year ago, a year and a bit after my father died.

My situation

All my mom’s worldly assets were held with BMO Investorline: RRIF, TFSA and a non-registered account. This was a self-directed account; the relationship with BMO (as I came to learn) was pretty informal. Me and my siblings were named as beneficiaries of the estate, and my Mom had taken steps to name us as beneficiaries for the RRIF and TFSA. More details about how that works were covered in a previous post.

First weeks

I had ready access to estate cash because I was named as a joint account holder on my Mom’s chequing account1. This is a very useful thing to have in place, since it can cover expenses incurred after death: funeral costs, moving expenses are two that come to mind. I treated this account as part of the estate, but it allowed me to spend the estate’s money instead of my own for these things.

DIY Estate Handling

Informing BMO Investorline2 of my mother’s death was required, and that took a single call to the general help desk. After about a week I had an initial meeting with their estate department.

Once I provided proof of death, all accounts were frozen and I could no longer even see what was in them. BMOI correctly noted that we were the beneficiaries of the TFSA and RRIF and we started the paper-intensive3work of liquidating and distributing the assets held in those accounts. I checked my notes — it took about 2 months for that step to be fully completed.

What was unexpected was that BMOI gave us ALL the money in the RRIF, with no taxes withheld. From a tax perspective, a RRIF is treated as income in the hands of the deceased on the day they die. For most people, that means a substantial tax bill for that tax year. So as an executor4, I had to be VERY sure that my Mom’s non-registered account could cover the tax bill that would eventually come. Using a tax calculator helped a lot.

The non-registered account, where the bulk of the assets lay, would require a probated will, as I expected. This account remained locked and frozen.

Probate and probate fees

In the very simplest terms, probate means getting a court to certify a will as accurate. And when you think about it, it makes sense that financial services companies want to be VERY sure that the executor (aka estate trustee) is in fact the correct person.

After doing a bit of reading (mostly this source) I decided I could tackle it on my own. This was made significantly easier by the fact that I lived in the same city as my mother, and I had access to a courthouse were I could take my completed forms.

When filing your probate papers, you also have to pay probate fees (aka Estate Administration Tax), which means you have to know the total value of the estate on the day of death. BMOI was able to provide me statements up to that day so I had a to-the-penny accurate assessment of the value held there. BMOI was also able to write a cheque to the Ontario Minister of Finance for these fees using funds available5 in the non-registered account. This meant I wouldn’t have to front the money myself.

Probate fees, in my Mom’s case, were not particularly large (not compared to the estimated tax bill), and since RRIF and TFSA were not part of the estate, they were also lower than they could have been.

After filing, the wait for the court-certified document began. I had very low expectations (I had conservatively estimated a 6 month delay here), but I actually had the probated will arrive in the mail a month later, which was about 4 months after my mother’s death.

Using the Probated Will

With a probated will in hand, I could now unlock the non-registered funds in my Mom’s estate. This required me to open an estate account with BMOI and then transfer the non-registered funds to it. After all that paperwork, I once again had full access to the assets that were formerly held in my Mom’s non-registered account — I could log in to the portal, see the holdings, and most importantly, perform transactions myself at the usual self-directed transaction fees.

I sold all the assets (mostly ETFs, naturally) and partially distributed them to the beneficiaries. Distributing the assets was admittedly (again) more challenging than I thought. Since I was quite familiar with how BMOI worked, I requested AccountLink cheques for the estate account, figuring this would be the easiest way to distribute the funds6. This resulted in a bit of a runaround, but eventually I got a box of cheques sent to me. I held some money back7 so I could pay the 2025 tax bill; this money I invested in a HISA.

Preparing for Tax Season

In late 2024, I removed the remainder of the estate from the HISA account. This was done so as to not have any income generated by the estate in 2025. This simplifies the tax filing considerably.

After doing a bunch of reading, I gave up on the idea of attempting to do the taxes myself. I knew there would have to be both a Final Return (for my Mom) and an Estate Return (aka a T3 return) but I wasn’t really sure about all the steps, and of course CRA’s website isn’t really designed for the layperson to figure this stuff out easily. There was also the matter of filing a CRA clearance certificate. I hired a pro to figure all this stuff out. As it turns out, my Mom’s estate qualified as a GRE Trust, which is, as I understand it, pretty typical. That would appear to offer some potential tax benefits, but I’ll have to wait and see and this point.

  1. It didn’t hold a significant amount of money. Larger sums could conceivably attract the attention of CRA as a bare trust. ↩︎
  2. Hereafter referred to as “BMOI”. Laziness. ↩︎
  3. Actually, mostly filling out PDFs and sending them back over secure messaging ↩︎
  4. If the estate can’t pay the taxes, then the executor is legally obligated to pay ↩︎
  5. Like all matters estate-related, this took a lot of effort. Having sufficient funds when my mother was alive was a very simple process: log on to the portal, sell some shares, wait a few days, get the money. In an estate scenario you have to write a letter of direction to indicate what, exactly, to sell. Then you wait a week or two. Then you get angry at the fact that they charged you $40/trade. Then you write another letter of direction to indicate who to write the cheque to. Then you wait a week for the cheque to arrive. ↩︎
  6. I’m not really sure how the mechanics would work with a broker that doesn’t have bank services. EFT I guess? ↩︎
  7. Probably more than I needed to hold back, but I wasn’t taking chances. ↩︎

Death, Taxes and Estates: Part 1

RobH4 Comments

I am not a lawyer, accountant or tax expert. Your situation may be a lot different than mine. Seek professional guidance if needed.

What happens to our investments when we die? Having lost both my parents in the past 2 years, I’ve (regrettably) had a lot of exposure to the ins of outs of estates and how they work.

Being Ready for the Inevitable

Fact: we’re all going to die. Pretending this isn’t true isn’t helpful to your survivors. So there are some concrete things you should have in place before that happens.

  • Have a will. Whether DIY, software-assisted1, or prepared by a suit, just get it done — here’s a nice step-by-step guide. And if you do have one, is it up to date? Take a look.
  • Have the will name exactly one executor, with alternate executors in the event your first pick isn’t available . Hearing multiple stories from multiple sources about how much extra work and delay having joint executors causes, I cannot recommend this all-too-common approach. You’re not “playing favourites” by naming one person2.
  • Make sure your executor knows how to get a hold of the will. Be very specific, and repeat this information frequently so it’s top-of-mind.
  • Make sure your RRIFs/RRSPs/TFSAs name successors and/or beneficiaries. I covered that topic in more detail here.
  • Make sure any life insurance policies name a beneficiary
  • Make sure your workplace pension3 names a survivor4.
  • Prepare a death binder5 with all assets clearly specified — provider name, account numbers, name on the account. Is the list really long? Maybe it’s time to trim that list down. Every provider on that list will create work for your executor. So if you want to be kind, keep the list of providers small. Make sure your executor knows where to find it.
  • Have a month or two of expenses in cash that is accessible by those who survive you, like in a joint chequing account. Assets held solely in your name will be frozen when you’re dead, possibly for weeks or months.
  • Set up someone (your executor, for example) as your authorized representative with CRA. This makes dealing with taxes much easier for those that you leave behind. How? Read here.

My Situation

My parents held no real estate, and all their assets were held in DIY investments (RRIF, TFSA and non-registered accounts). They each had a will and named the other as the executor with me as the alternate. They dealt with two providers — one for their DIY investments (BMO Investorline) and one for their day-to-day banking (CIBC). So in terms of complexity I think I had it pretty easy.

Dealing with the death of the first parent

My Dad’s death was not a surprise, and because of this I was able to maximize his TFSA contributions before he died. Dad did hate paying taxes.

Although my Mom was legally the executor, I did almost all the work involved. Most providers seemed to be pretty good about dealing with me once they got confirmation from my Mom. The key documents and facts you’ll be asked for in almost every encounter are the same, so have these ready each and every time:

  • Date and place of birth of the deceased
  • Date and place of death of the deceased
  • SIN number of the deceased
  • A death certificate (this is issued by the funeral home, typically)
  • The will
  • Funeral home invoice (if applying for a death benefit)

Dealing with the bank was easy. One 30 minute meeting6 and all was sorted.

As many DIY financial services providers don’t have brick and mortar locations, high quality digital versions7 are also generally accepted. In the case of BMO Investorline, I had to visit a BMO branch8 with the documents so they could send them as “true copies”. How a provider with no affiliation with a bank does this, no idea9.

In the case of any DIY investment held in the deceased’s name — those assets get frozen upon notifying the provider. This can be problematic if one is relying on those assets to say, pay rent, or pay for funeral arrangements.

The unexpected complication arose from the non-registered joint account — it didn’t just “convert” to removing one person’s name from the account — you have to open a new, individual account, involving all the same paperwork as though you were a new client, and then transfer the joint assets “in kind” to the new account. During this time, the funds were not accessible. This is beyond annoying, but I suspect this is the same regardless of who your provider is. My mom lost access to her joint account for about 6 weeks while this was settled.

Taxes for the death of the first parent

The tax return you file for a person who has died in this scenario is called (ominously) the Final Return. A person who dies is treated as though they sold all their assets on the day of death. I did not file a T3 Return10 return for my Dad, since all the assets passed through to my Mom. If he had had non-registered assets held solely in his name, I think I would have had to.

  • For a RRIF or RRSP, this means CRA assumes you sold all the holdings on the day you died and recognized it as income11
  • For a non-registered account held solely in one name, CRA assumes you sold all the holdings on the day of death and recognized any capital gains at that time.

I was able to successfully file the Final Return for my Dad using Wealthsimple’s tax software12. The Final Return cannot be eFiled — you have to print it and send it using snail mail.

Adjustments after the death of the first parent

After my Dad died and my Mom had all the combined TFSA/RRIF assets in place, we updated her TFSA and RRIF to name me and my siblings as beneficiaries by filling out a form. This proved to be helpful in reducing the tax bill a bit when she died. More on that in a future post.

  1. “willful.” seems to be a trendy option nowadays: https://www.willful.co/ ↩︎
  2. One could argue the opposite — just give the duties to your least favourite relative as a last vengeful act ↩︎
  3. Some workplace pensions provide death benefits and/or an ongoing survivor pension, but only if you take the trouble to name a survivor in that pension. ↩︎
  4. And if you do, I’m envious 😉 ↩︎
  5. Paper is probably less trouble than trying to provide a file location/passwords, but YMMV. ↩︎
  6. Prearranged online of course. You can’t just walk into a branch to do anything these days. ↩︎
  7. You’ll get good at this workflow or go crazy trying. Take photo on phone, airdrop to laptop, compress/convert image so it can get through email… ↩︎
  8. Do NOT assume that the brokerage has anything to do with the bank with whom they share a logo. I learned this the hard way with BMO/BMO Investorline. ↩︎
  9. Maybe notarized documents? Let me know at comments@moneyengineer.ca. ↩︎
  10. AKA “Estate Return”. A person who dies becomes a new tax entity, typically named Estate of <dead person> ↩︎
  11. Which is why you name a successor for your RRIF — this tax penalty is thereby avoided ↩︎
  12. It was because Intuit Quicktax could not handle this scenario that I ended my decades-long relationship with them. ↩︎

Doug Dollars for the Dead?

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I’m the executor for my Mom’s estate (she died about a year ago). On Friday last week, I got a cheque in her name1 from the Government of Ontario. Premier Ford’s handiwork, it seems. My Mom’s estate just got $200 richer.

Anyway, per this Star article, it seems like I’m not the only one. And, apparently, the right thing to do is to deposit the cheque, thus adding it to the estate — which I will do, once I pay a visit to my local branch2.

  1. Not “The Estate of” which is a sign that the sender is working from less-than-current information. ↩︎
  2. All transactions involving an estate require a physical visit to a bank branch. As an online native, I find this confounding, perplexing and irritating. ↩︎

Getting paid in retirement: a DIY challenge

RobH7 Comments

Summary: The mechanical details of getting paid in retirement require careful review of how your provider allows cash movements between accounts, a handle on how much money is coming in via a RRIF, and, for bonus points, an annual decumulation plan to minimize household taxes.

I covered how I get paid in retirement previously, but this was nothing more than a restatement of how VPW (Variable Percentage Withdrawal) works. My reality is not quite as simple as the Idealized Monthly Routine I laid out in that post.

The actual work required looks more like this:

Actual monthly work needed to get paid in retirement

The first 3 steps are the ones I covered in the last post, and there’s nothing new to talk about there. In brief, you calculate your retirement savings, enter that number into the VPW spreadsheet, and out pops the monthly VPW suggestion (“v”), which is then added to the current value of your cash cushion (“c”) to calculate your salary (“s”).

It’s probably worth noting what specific accounts I hold at my provider to make things a bit clearer1

  • There are 4 total RRIF accounts (two for me, two for my spouse)
  • There are 2 non-registered accounts that hold retirement investments (one for me, one for my spouse)
  • There is 1 non-registered joint account that serves the role of VPW’s cash cushion, which is invested in DYN6004 so I can earn a bit of risk-free interest.

So ideally, my RRIF payments would flow into the cash cushion account, and I would pay myself out of the cash cushion account to my everyday joint chequing account. That is unfortunately NOT how it works.

Let’s pick up the process starting at step 4.

Do the RRIF minimum payments cover the calculated salary?

When I opened my RRIF accounts (and yes, there’s more than one2), one of the questions asked was “what bank account should the payments go to?” Asking for RRIF payments to go to a non-registered account was not presented as an option, and it’s not possible. So already the simple RRIF to cash cushion transaction outlined in the ideal scenario wasn’t possible.

The other questions asked by my provider was: how much do you want to be paid? (RRIF minimum, some percentage/amount higher than that, gross/net?)

(If you’re new to the RRIF world, or if you think that RRIFs are just for 71-year-olds, you may want to check out my previous post on debunking this and other myths.)

The amount each of my RRIFs3 pays me monthly is a well-known fact since I opted to collect RRIF minimum from each RRIF — and RRIF minimum is based on my RRIF value and age as of January 1, 2025. It will stay constant throughout 2025. So while simple, the amounts involved aren’t enough to pay my suggested salary. I’m free to ignore the suggested salary and simply (try to) live off my RRIF minimums, but that would be counter to my “you can’t take it with you” ethos. And so, I have to augment my RRIF minimum salary with money from elsewhere.

If your RRIF minimum payments are higher than the salary, then I suppose it makes sense to re-invest those payments somewhere. Or give the money away. Up to you 🙂

Sell required assets in non-registered account and move $ manually

The title is clear enough — sell something in the non-registered portfolio and use it to make up the salary shortfall. But whose holdings4? Which ones?

To help me decide, at the beginning of the year, I played around with tax scenarios using the calculators referenced in Tools I Use to concoct a high level plan on how to best minimize my household’s collective tax bill. (This was a tip my financial advisor gave me; her advice was to try to pay no more than an average tax rate of 15%5).

I assumed my income sources were

  • My RRIF minimum payments (same for my spouse)
  • My spouse’s salary
  • Minor dividend income6
  • Capital gains caused by the sale of non-registered assets7

Since the first three items above were already known, there was no decision to make; the tax owing on those was already clear8. The capital gains were the only variable — how much should I take versus my spouse? There was a bit of estimation involved in the actual amounts here (the actual gains would depend on the actual sale price), but it gave me a high level plan for 20259. Any additional income needed would be paid by capital gains realized from MY holdings since my income was forecast to be lower than that of my spouse10.

With the pre-work done, it boils down to making the required sell trade, waiting two days for the cash to settle, and then clicking the right buttons to get the cash out of my investment account and into my chequing account. Should be simple, but if you’ve never done it before, you need to make sure it’s all working as you expect.

Sell required assets in RRIF

Yes, you have to make sure that there’s cash available in your RRIF accounts (and remember, I have 4) BEFORE the monthly payment goes out. My provider would only be too happy to do this on my behalf, charging me their “telephone trading rates” for the trade — something like $30 plus $0.06 a share for XGRO. Compared with “free” if I do the work myself, that’s a pretty decent hourly rate…Do not forget that it takes two days for a trade to settle into cash. Since my provider does not pay interest on cash holdings, I’m highly motivated to keep any cash balance to a strict minimum. I hate not earning money on my money.

Adjust cash cushion up or down by comparing VPW suggestion to calculated salary

In my previous post I talked about moving “v” to the cash cushion and then simply taking 1/6th of it as salary. And that is exactly what I do. But practically, it’s impossible to do this maneuver in exactly the way I describe with my current provider (QTrade). Here are the specific reasons I can’t do what VPW asks me to do:

  • QTrade RRIF payments must be made to an external bank account. So right away, part of my salary cannot flow through an intermediary cash cushion account.
  • QTrade does not allow cash transfers between non-registered accounts on their online platform. This means that the asset sales in my non-registered account cannot be moved directly to the cash cushion accounts either11.

I have worked around the limitations imposed by my provider by either

  • moving money from my chequing account to my cash cushion if the VPW suggestion is higher than my salary (market is moving up)
  • moving money from the cash cushion to my chequing account if my salary is higher than the VPW suggestion (market is moving down)

I have set up smart-ish spreadsheets to break down all the various movements of money which I will share at some point once I figure out how to make them a bit more generic. I’ve also documented a step-by-step guide for my spouse which she uses as we sit together walking through the monthly tasks12 so that I have confidence she could execute on them if I became incapacitated. There is no substitute for handing over the controls to see where the gaps in knowledge — and documentation — are.

The future

Having witnessed what happens to savvy adults as they get older, I know deep down that this DIY strategy isn’t sustainable forever. There are too many moving parts, and too many opportunities to make mistakes.

At present, I don’t have a future plan mapped out. I have updated my “death binder“, but beyond this, nothing more. I will dedicate more research (and future posts) on that topic.

  1. For your benefit I have not mentioned the USD variants I have of a few of these. This post is long enough as it is, and I presume that most readers don’t hold assets that are traded on US stock exchanges. ↩︎
  2. My own RRIF and my spousal RRIF account for two, and my spouse has two as well. Total four. They are with the same provider. Spousal RRIFs are generated from spousal RRSPs, in case you were wondering. If you deal with more than one RRIF provider (I would NOT recommend that), you’ll also have to consider that. All this to say that I saw 4 distinct payments made to my joint chequing account on Friday last week, one for each of the 4 RRIFs. ↩︎
  3. I keep saying “my RRIFs” for simplicity, but all 4 RRIFs (2 in my name, 2 in my spouse’s) are treated the same way. All four payments end up in our joint chequing account. ↩︎
  4. Both my spouse and I have non-registered accounts. My spouse’s was funded via a spousal loan I set up years ago to achieve some degree of income splitting. ↩︎
  5. After years of thinking of taxation in terms of what I paid on the LAST dollar I earned, this was admittedly a very different way of considering the problem. ↩︎
  6. Most of my dividend income (via XGRO and AOA) is buried in my RRIF and TFSA to avoid any taxation of it ↩︎
  7. Because I make a lot of use of HXS and HXT in my non-registered portfolio, I earn no dividend income; it’s all capital gains… ↩︎
  8. If you’re not aware, RRIF payments are treated as no-special-treatment taxable income, reported on a T4-RIF form by CRA. ↩︎
  9. Since I get paid monthly, I could always adapt if my assumptions were radically off. ↩︎
  10. I could have also paid the extra from my TFSA holdings, but my advisor suggested that this is the LAST bucket to use in retirement. ↩︎
  11. Unless I like waiting on hold. I do not. ↩︎
  12. Who says romance is dead? ↩︎

Managing money for aging parents

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Before my own parents died, I managed their investments and taxes for about 10 years. Here are some things we had set up that made things much easier as they relied more and more on me in their final years. In my case, they placed their trust in me while of sound mind and body. Things probably look a lot different if this isn’t the case for you. And once again, I will remind you that I’m not a lawyer.

Make sure they have a will, you know who prepared it, and you know where it is

I cannot imagine how much more complex managing my parents’ estate would have been had there not been a will. They made a habit of reminding me where theirs was kept periodically. This was a tremendous relief after they died. In Ontario, the rules of probate dictate that a will has to have an “Affadavit of Execution” in order to be considered a valid document. What this means practically is that the legal team who prepared the will in the first place has to certify that yes, they did indeed prepare the will and the signatures on the will are the ones they remembered. So, as executor, this meant I had to march the signed will over to the law firm who prepared it, and they had to call the lawyer who signed it out of retirement to come in to the office to fill out the Affadavit. (If this sounds crazy to you, I can assure you, you’re not alone…)

Have a Power of attorney (PoA) set up

Having your parents’ logins (which I know is a very common practice) is NOT the same thing as the steps I’m outlining here. While you may be able to do quite a bit this way, having a PoA is much better. The PoA I’m referring to is the “Continuing Power of Attorney for Property” as mentioned by the feds. (There’s another, separate, PoA for health decisions, but that’s not what I’m talking about here). PoA is only applicable to living people — the PoA document doesn’t have any authority once the person is dead, that’s what the will is for. The PoA document is a necessary but rarely sufficient document to get a bank or broker to talk to you on behalf of your parents. Every financial institution I dealt with insisted that I fill out their own forms in addition to providing a PoA to get the ball rolling. Many lawyers prepare PoA documents as part of their will package, but for my parents, we just used the free form on the Government of Ontario website1. With this form I was able to get my own “authorized attorney” login for my parents’ RRIF/TFSA/investment accounts at BMO Investorline.

Set Up an Authorized Representative with CRA

An “authorized representative” is someone designated by the parent as being able to communicate on their behalf with the Canada Revenue Agency. It’s a common practice if you happen to hire a tax pro to prepare your taxes. I was my parents’ authorized rep; it’s surprisingly easy to set up by following the instructions over at https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/representative-authorization/overview.html.

Simplify, simplify, simplify

Any extra bank account, any extra RRIF/TFSA/RRSP/Investment account creates more work and more headaches to the eventual executor of the estate, ESPECIALLY if it involves multiple financial institutions. Do those you leave behind a big favour and ruthlessly eliminate any extras.

A joint bank account between a child and a parent can be very useful

Here you have to be quite careful, lest you inadvertently create a “bare trust” under CRA rules. Here I’m talking about enough money to deal with post-death expenses — last utility bills, funeral expenses…This is helpful since (as stated above) a PoA no longer has any validity once the person who signed it is dead. My parents added me to their joint chequing account many years ago…since this account was quite modest in terms of its holdings (it was really only for day to day expenses) I never had to worry that they had set up a bare trust.

  1. If anyone reading this has any sort of influence on documents posted by the Government of Ontario on their websites, could you please let them know that requiring the use of Adobe Acrobat to open and edit pdfs goes against all notions of equal access to their constituents? My poor little Chromebook doesn’t do Acrobat. ↩︎